Posts Tagged ‘TBC’

Arena Points Alternative; Compare TBC to WotLK

Tuesday, November 24th, 2009

Arena Points Alternative

I just picked up my relentless weapons last week. Our current goal is to push for a 2000 rating once we pick up more gear. We are happy with the amount of points that we are obtaining per week currently and are happy to be in the top 1000 teams in our battlegroup with our gear. All of us have obtained every piece of gear that we wanted short of our relentless main set pieces.

Now the waiting begins. Currently, to complete my relentless set (not including the t2 weapon), it will take 8500 arena points to buy that gear or 10 weeks at our current rating. Obviously at some point we’ll have to get 2000 and higher for the gear and that will cut down on some time. Overall, I’m still looking at at least six weeks of waiting for arena points to calculate. This amounts to very little time spent working on this during a week.

When you are used to grinding out honor for offset pieces and playing a bunch of arena games for practice every week, then you hit the arena point wall and suddenly have no reason to log on anymore. Our gear is not good enough to push for above 2k right now and we are not trying to farm anything else. I find myself logging on and working to get random achievements and doing other frivolous character development.

So what can be done to fix this? The ability of obtaining arena points faster is currently based on your team rating. In a lot of ways, this means the better geared the team, the faster they get points. This leaves new teams and new characters in the dust to wait for the gear so they can be competitive. The immediate solution would be to allow points to be given out faster than once a week.

Rated battlegrounds will help this a little bit but will also suffer from the same limitation. The limitation is there because obviously you don’t want someone to be able to get a full season of gear within the first week if they play enough. There is no accomplishment to that and it makes the gear trivial to most people.

I have thought about this quite a bit recently and can not think of a decent alternative to the current system. If anyone has a good idea, please let me know and definitely send your idea to blizzard.

“Raid” on SW

We randomly started to harass some Alliance players the other night. By “we” I mean 5 of us and by “some” I mean over 20 Alliance characters. There were at least 5 prot paladins, 2 prot warriors, and 3 DKs who showed up for the fray. We were able to push past the entrance and into the wall of SW, but were forced back out because of going OOM and the sheer amount of Alliance who were defending.

Overall it was a blast and I was reminded about the nature and mindset that a lot of WoW players have. It doesn’t seem to matter how bad you outnumber the opponent or how many times they killed you, you must show your superiority when you get that one kill on them. Our group makeup was double rogue, mage, resto druid, and me (disc priest). We were able to pull off over 60 hk’s before one of us was killed because of the chain stuns/silences from the prot paladins. Immediately, the paladin dropped a flag of ownership on Darafeln’s corpse.

It was pretty funny that the paladin left the scene feeling victorious over us even after we killed him multiple times and dozens of his friends. Notice how this is a common theme in WoW. Watch how other players will brag about their skill or superiority no matter how much of a lie it is.

TBC vs WotLK

Patch 3.3 will introduce the final raid content of this expansion pack. In Ice Crown Citadel, we will most likely fight the Lich King. Looking at the games current state in PvE and looking back to TBC and vanilla, does ICC and the Lich King seem as epic of an achievement as Illidan or bosses like Twin Emporers in AQ40?

I just don’t get that feeling like I did in TBC where the final boss of the expansion was only really killable by the best raiding guilds on your server. It wasn’t just anyone who strolled into the Black Temple and killed Illidan. It was even an attitude that if you didn’t have Illidan on farm status, your guild was a joke.

I think that some of that attitude will remain, but overall the “hardcore” side of the game is dying out. I don’t think Blizzard is to blame for this. I get the feeling that the current player base is getting more casual every month and Blizzard is just accommodating for the largest common denominator. I kind of miss those times where the hardcore were somewhat a resemblance of the word instead of the current state where it is equally conceivable to say “I’m hardcore at Candyland”.

I feel that PvP has gotten more hardcore with the age of the game and PvE has tapered off. PvP still is challenging and refreshing to me where as there are very few bosses that really would challenge me as a player.

I am excited for Cataclysm because of going back to vanilla areas. I just hope that the old feeling is not gone by the time I get there.

How Long Will You Play WoW?

Tuesday, November 17th, 2009

I’ve always wondered how long I would play World of Warcraft. From the first few moments that I played it, I know that it would hold my attention for a while. Nevertheless, I couldn’t have predicted that I would still be playing it 4-5 years later. I probably would have laughed at the notion at the time. The longest I had ever played a single game was only for a few months at the time. In fact, I have “quit” WoW multiple times (more like took a hiatus). The 4-5 years of playing might never have happened.

The first time that I quit, it was some time before TBC. The game had the honor system for the super hardcore and raiding for the hardcore. Obtaining R13 wasn’t an option due to the massive amount of time needed to reach that rank. Also, I wasn’t able to spend enough time playing while in college to raid and actually get gear. There came a point where I realized that my gear was as good as it possibly could be without me raiding. Since I did not have time to raid, and had no other options of getting gear, I decided to quit. I really still wanted to play WoW, but couldn’t justify playing and not getting anywhere. That all changed a couple months later when Blizzard announced most of TBC changes. It was like they had read my mind and I started playing again. Coincidentally, I started raiding shortly after the game became more casual.

I played through much of TBC before taking another hiatus from WoW, this time for completely different reasons. It was during season 4 and I was playing my paladin. Our main focus was 3’s and our team makeup was Disc Priest, Ret Paladin, Ret Paladin. If you can remember season 4, you will see where our difficulties came from. The lack of a healing debuff or any real interrupts during a season where drain teams and double healers ruled the arenas left a sour taste in our mouths. At the time, ret paladin damage was lackluster at best. I had a lot more fun healing through hours in Zul’Aman with my guild than I did playing PvP. This was a low point in the history of paladins and I was tired of not having a good comp to play in arenas, so I quit again.

During this time, I ran a Counter Strike: Source server that grew to be one of the most popular servers in the world (top 100 out of 30000+ tracked servers). It was all a lot of fun, but ultimately I still wanted to play WoW, just didn’t enjoy it the way that it was. Yet again, Blizzard made changes that drew me back to the game. I have taken breaks from playing many times. Each varied from a couple weeks to a few months and had various other reasons (too busy, gone a lot, trying AoC, other MMOs, etc). Some of those times I was sure that I wouldn’t play again. Each time I was wrong.

So that brings me to to my original question. How long will I play WoW? I don’t think this question can really be answered. Whether another MMO steals my interest or if I just get tired after 5 years, I couldn’t say. Ultimately I’ll at least quit by the time the servers are shut off (which judging by the fact that Everquest is still going, could be another decade or so). Whether I play that long or not depends on if I continue to have fun playing a great game with friends.

Feeling of Nostalgia

Friday, October 23rd, 2009

For those of you who have been playing WoW for a long time, do you ever get a feeling of nostalgia when you visit certain old world places, watch old PvP videos, look at old loot items, etc? A couple weeks ago, I was leveling my herbalism skill and I went to Azshara to gather a bit for the end of the vanilla herbalism. Wandering around in that zone gave me a feeling of nostalgia. Although I rarely ever went there when I was level 60, I still felt the same way about the zone. It is the look, the sounds, the overall “feel” of the zone that gives it a personality. My mind instantly flashed back to being level 60 and going there to farm felcloth. It wasn’t just this zone, it is a lot places that give me the feeling as well.

When I visit Elwynn Forest, I can remember when I leveled up my first character there and the many hours spent there socializing with everyone. I also despise Duskwood to this day and my all-time favorite vanilla zone is Searing Gorge (I couldn’t even give you a reason as to why, it just is). There are a lot of zones that bring back old memories, good and bad. Something, anything, triggers our brains to remember those old times we had in Azeroth.

If we compare vanilla to the expansions, do you get the same memories about TBC that you did from vanilla? I definitely do not have a feeling of nostalgia when I need to visit outlands. I do not think that the expansion was bad, I had a lot of fun playing it and logged my share of hours doing so. I just think that the vanilla zones really shaped our perspective on WoW. No matter if you started playing on day one or just a few months ago, you will always visit the vanilla content first.

Cataclysm will forever change the vanilla zones as we know them. I have read a lot of people think this is Blizzard just re-hashing old ideas and re-using content. I, however, think that this is one of the most original changes yet to come. It is a feeling of nostalgia but different. It will be like the old days, before TBC, except it will be different. It should be vanilla WoW minus all of the headaches. It brings the word “epic” to mind.

Do you get the feeling of nostalgia when visiting vanilla or TBC content? Share your story with us.